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The Dalai Lama Throws in the Towel
It is always hard to tell what is for show and what is real in the long, drawn out tragedy of Sino-Tibet relations but the Dalai Lama's announcement that he has had enough (see here) and is giving up on talks with China is an important moment, even if it is partially symbolic. It has also lead to renewed speculation about whether he might be retiring or about to step down. Normally, you only leave that job when you die, but he has in the past threatened to set up an election or other novel means to find a successor, a clear attempt to avoid a repetition of what happened to the Panchen Lama, the second ranking monk in Tibet's hierarchy. When the incumbent in the 1990s, both the government in exile and China picked a successor. The China pick, a genial young man in his late teens, regularly appears publicly and was last spotted at an exhibition of Tibetans paitings in Beijing in August. The anti-Panchen Lama, if we can take terminology from the Christian experience, disappeared along with his entire family in 1995 when the six-year old was taken into "protective custody" by Beijing and hasn't been seen since. (See here for the wikipedia account of the controversy.)
Seems like nothing but bad news ahead for benighted Tibet, tho it'll be hard for us to know just how bad or good things are. Although the occasional foreign reporter is let in under heavily guided conditions, Tibet remains effectively sealed off to the outside world. My application to visit in November was rejected a couple of days ago on the grounds there had been an earthquake (presumably they were too busy cleaning up after this incident, which left nine people dead in early October). I was told that I might try again "sometime next year." If as my kids tell me "we'll think about it" translated from parent speak really means "forget about it," I have an odd feeling that the Foreign Affairs Department in Lhasa might have had something similar in mind.
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Dalai Lama's Regious persecution and Human right's abuses!
My interest is of the Dorje Shugdan issue - the Buddhist diety practised by the Gelug and Sakya schools of Tibetan Buddhsim for over 300 years. Millions of Buddhist across the world carry out the practice of an ancient well loved prayer to the Buddhist Deity Dorje Shugden.
The Dalai Lama has illegally banned this prayer even though he himself practiced it for most of his life and was taught to him by his Spiritual Guide before him. Since banning the prayer in 1996, the Dalai Lama has set about instigating and endorsing a series of non-democratic and vehement campaigns toward Shugden practitioners causing tremendous pain and great schisms within the Buddhist community worldwide.
His campaign has intensified since January this year when over a 1000 monks were unconstitutionally expelled from their monasteries, Tibetans-in-exile were forcibly intimidated to engage in public signature and swearing campaigns, and since which Shugden devotees have experienced having identity cards and visa applications withheld, they have been denied basic needs and necessities such as food, water and medical assistance, and there have been instances of thuggish attacks against persons and arson against their property simply because they wish to maintain their spiritual beliefs.
DALAI LAMA CONTINUES TO CAMPAIGN FOR SUPPORT TO SEEK RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FROM THE CHINESE. YET, MILLIONS OF SHUGDEN PRACTITONERS WORLDWIDE ARE ALSO SEEKING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM - FROM THE DALAI LAMA!
The Indian media has covered this since 1996. Diety discrimimation (which exactly is what Dalai Lama's actions are ) breaks India's constitutional law and persecution and discrimination on religious ground breaks Article 14 of Human Rights Act.
After tremendous suffering resulting from the systematic discrimination and persecution at the hands of Dalai Lama and the TGIE, the Shugden practitioners have started court proceedings against the Dalai Lama and Kalon Tripa Samdhong (Tibetan prime minister) on the grounds of religious persecution. The court proceeding started on the 12th of September. For more information please see; http://www.wisdombuddhadorjeshugden.blogspot.com/2008/09/pressure-mounts-on-dalai-lama-to-solve.html
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where did your application get rejected? tibetan embassy? is there one? if not, what the hell is a 'sino-tibet relation'?
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[...] odd feeling that the Foreign Affairs Department in Lhasa might have had something similar in mind. Source __________________ The ink of the scholar is more sacred than the blood of the martyr - [...]
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[...] Normally, you only leave that job when you die, but he has in the past threatened to set up an election or other novel means to find a successor, a clear attempt to avoid a repetition of what happened to the Panchen Lama, the second ranking monk in Tibet's hierarchy. When the incumbent in the 1990s, both the government in exile and China picked a successor. The China pick, a genial young man in his late teens, regularly appears publicly and was last spotted at an exhibition of Tibetans paitings in Beijing in August. The anti-Panchen Lama, if we can take terminology from the Christian experience, disappeared along with his entire family in 1995 when the six-year old was taken into "protective custody" by Beijing and hasn't been seen since. (See here for the wikipedia account of the controversy.) Seems like nothing but bad news ahead for benighted Tibet, tho it'll be hard for us to know just how bad or good things are. Although the occasional foreign reporter is let in under heavily guided conditions, Tibet remains effectively sealed off to the outside world. My application to visit in November was rejected a couple of days ago on the grounds there had been an earthquake (presumably they were too busy cleaning up after this incident, which left nine people dead in early October). I was told that I might try again "sometime next year." If as my kids tell me "we'll think about it" translated from parent speak really means "forget about it," I have an odd feeling that the Foreign Affairs Department in Lhasa might have had something similar in mind. Source [...]
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[...] Posted by bosskitty on October 26, 2008 The Dalai Lama Throws in the Towel [...]
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Frankly speaking, it's high time the Dalai Lama stepped down and allowed someone else to take over his political power. The Tibetans need a leader who is politically savvy and can take tough decisions. The Dalai Lama's peaceful nature have helped build international support and goodwill for the Tibetan cause. But this in real terms means nothing. The Dalai Lama has not even been able to get the international community to boycott China and Chinese good aka South Africa during Apartheid. Tibet will not get independence from China under the Dalai Lama.
Before the Chinese takeover, Tibet was a theocracy, ruled by despotic and undemocratic monks. The Dalai Lama constantly says that Tibet will be a democracy after it gets independence. That won't do. The Dalai Lama should cease to be the political head of Tibet. Elections shouuld be held among Tibetans living outside China to elect a democratic political head. This person should hold office for a term of say, 5 years, and should have the right to negotiate with China. http://www.winnowed.blogspot.com
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From a Buddhist point of view, harming another person, even only with violent words, is sinful.
There are no way we don't like XiZhang Lama, unless they are someone else.... -
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If I were the authority, I wouldn't give visa to Mr. Elegant. Your mindset towards China is just not objective. I would advise Chinese authority to never give visa to this kinds of foreign journalists. Sorry no offense.
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Mr. excellentcalvin: Exactly. Those 'monks' that incites riots are not Buddhists. Buddhists do not involve themselves in political or material affairs, but only in self-reflection and honing of thoughts and body.
So what is the Dalai Lama and his gang of monks doing claiming to be Buddhists?
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The Dalai Lama called a meeting of all Tibetans in Dharamsala, here his words:
“… all the participants, as Tibetan citizens should discuss in a spirit of equality, cooperation and collective responsibility the best possible future course of action to advance the Tibetan cause. This meeting should take place in an atmosphere of openness, putting aside partisan debate. Rather, it should focus on the aspirations and views of the Tibetan people. I appeal to everyone concerned to work together to contribute as best as they can. This Special Meeting is being convened with the express purpose of providing a forum to understand the real opinions and views of the Tibetan people through free and frank discussions. It must be clear to all that this special meeting does not have any agenda for reaching a particular predetermined outcome.
The Dalai Lama
14 November 2008″ ___________________________________________________________The Dalai Lama has issued a civic and religious ban against an important group of Tibetans, the Gelugpas that rely on the Protector Dorjeshugden.
If someone needed more proof about the persecution that the Dalai Lama has instituted, here is a living proof.He himself says speaks above about "an spirit of equality". But the devotees of the Protector Dorjeshugden are forbidden to even attend that meeting, let alone participate. So the meeting in Dharamsala is not a meeting for Tibetans, it's not a meeting of Tibetans. There are Tibetans forbidden to be there because of their religious beliefs and commitments. This shows the duplicity of the Dalai Lama's assertions, one version for the Press, for the world, a different policy for Tibetans.
To the world he preaches religious tolerance and compassion. Among Tibetans he uses his political power to destroy an old religious tradition, the tradition of his own Teachers.
The world should know more about this, not only to try to reverse a persecution against innocent people, but also to try to understand why the Tibetan leader is not trusted by all.
To know more please go to http://www.shugdensociety.info; http://www.wisdombuddhadorjeshugden. YouTube has also good information.
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