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What to Make of Jackie Chan?
It's only fitting that at a serious-minded event like this weekend's Boao Forum, which China envisions as a tropical equivalent to Davos, the biggest news would be some ill-considered comments by film star Jackie Chan. Chan told an audience that, "I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not. If you're too free, you're like the way Hong Kong is now. It's very chaotic. Taiwan is also chaotic. ... I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want." Chan provoked anger, especially in Taiwan and Hong Kong, where some politicians called his comments insulting to fellow Chinese.
So what to make of Chan's political ruminations? It's tough to figure out what he's talking about, since he doesn't explain what he means by "chaotic." Protests in Taiwan and the occasional brawl between the island's lawmakers are often highlighted in the mainland press as examples of the dangers of democracy. So maybe that's where he's going with all this. (See our recent 10 Questions with Chan here.)
There are plenty of retorts, many of them already made, to Chan's line of thinking. Rather than add to the list, I'll offer a story. I once interviewed Jackie Chan in Hong Kong. It was an accident. I had gone to a conference on protecting intellectual property rights to track down an expert on the subject. Before I could talk with the expert, I had to sit through a skit that he performed with Chan, who is a spokesperson for anti-piracy efforts. The skit involved Chan driving a scooter onto a stage, chainsawing a stall selling pirated DVDs and ripping fake designer label clothes off the expert. It made for a pretty entertaining skit, despite the expert's clear lack of acting chops.
But the expert did know his intellectual property law, so after the skit I cornered him for a quick interview. The media folks insisted that I should talk to Jackie Chan too, because he's Jackie Chan! Midway through our brief chat, Chan called for a bottle of water. He had a problem with the cap, so he asked to borrow my pen, then plunged it through the unopened top. It was perhaps not the best way to open a bottle of water, but it was a pretty impressive, something that would leave an average human with a bloody hand.
I can still recall Chan's feat, but I can't remember anything he said during the interview. I didn't write about him because I wanted an intelligent appraisal of specific aspects of Chinese law, not some celebrity musings. I'd give his insights on freedom and China even less credence. Chan can pull of some impressive tricks of strength and dexterity, but it's best to not take his thoughts on serious issues too seriously.
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Oh no! Don't tell me actors aren't wise! Surely American actors like Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon have intelligent appraisals to offer?
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Granted, a lot of American actors/actress truly do not exhibit much intelligence aside from written scripts, I do not think you can say Jackie Chan is "stupid" just because what he said was in disagreement from the "freedom of everything" American belief. Frankly, a lot of Chinese, whether in mainland or other places around the world, somewhat hold that thought. (with a little research, you would probably know this) Just because that idea is different than yours, it does not mean it is stupid. Perhaps leave your bits of American prejudice at the door will help you to be part of the "New American Image" that Obama is trying to establish.
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I am with Jackie, the stupid. Chinese need to be controlled, and controlled by some one who does not need controlling. But who ? Not Hu, he is Chinese, and therefore needs controlling. May I suggest Mia Farrow ? She's not Chinese last time I checked. May be George Bush can get out of his retirement.
Chinese not only need controlling. They need MORE controlling, even more than what is available in mainland China. Just see the mining accidents, the corruption, the exploding batteries, the poisonous milk and milk powder that created big head babies. These are all signs of being out of control. A more stringent regime of control must be implemented in China, even down to the shapes of buns and noodles, and names people can have. The more control the better. And the Chinese government must stop all the leaks. They must not allow Chinese to leave the country to get contaminated with dirty thoughts. They have to stop Chinese from learning any foreign language so that they may get the wrong idea. It is through complete control that China can successfully implemented the Great Leap Forward and the Great Cultural Revolution.
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celiax should read what Chan's son said about his father on this issue. And also what Chan's martial arts school mate said about his ability to speak. I am glad that celiax said "a lot of Chinese" and not "all Chinese". Because a lot of Chinese disagree with Chan too, including Chan's son and schoolmates.
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I don't actually see the author claiming actors to be stupid.
Neither should the criticism of Chan's social commentary be construed as calling him "stupid". It just means that his social commentary was shallow.
As for the issue of "control", this is one of those social ideas that look good and feels right because it is vague.
Sure, the idea that someone can control the masses and provide social stability sounds like a good idea at first. But dive deeper and ask the questions "who controls?" and "who makes sure the controller is doing his proper duty?" and we arrive at a whole universe of more questions.cheers
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---"government must not allow Chinese to leave the country"?
I remember our smart Johnsmith think no Chinese is allowed to leave the country anyway, right. Lol!
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The one person who needs to be controlled is Jackie Chan. What Jackie Chan really needs is an education. What do you expect from someone who only a 3rd grade education?
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Ok, so freedom of speech does have a border!
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Ok, so freedom of speech does have a border.
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Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.
Have I ever mentioned how annoying it is to see idiots butcher legal definitions? No?
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Most people don't endorse communism to "control the people." Communism is endorsed to enable the rights of the proletariate, women, and minorities. When the tainted milk incident occured, most of those ill children were covered under China's health care system. Chinese women enjoy freedom unlike a real threat to U.S. Democracy: countries endorsing radical, fundemental Islam.
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Does anyone else find it a little odd, what he said? Like maybe he was trying to be ironic, or get away with proving a point? "Need to be controlled" is a pretty over-the-top statement. Maybe he was implying something else.
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The interesting part was that Chan was responding to a question about his thoughts on creativity in the media. And therefore the freedom in this context may be freedom of speech. And, like we have observed how Chan behaved, we must agree with him that freedom of speech by Chinese need to be controlled, and controlled well.
Another interesting phenomenon in this incident is that Chinese people start debating whether Chan meant "control" or "managed" as if they have different effects. A common way for Chinese to avoid the real issue.
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Chan's PR man clarified that by "chaotic", Chan meant "chaotic in the entertainment industry". Since Chan is in the entertainment industry, he is a prime example why they need to be controlled.
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Jackie Chan is just trying to stay on the good side of the CCP.
I found an interesting article about the incident: http://sublimeandbeautiful.wordpress.com/Btw, there's a video of Colin Powell at the Boao Forum on Youtube. As he walks into the conference room he gets swarmed on by the Chinese media. Eventually, he sternly tells them that "this is chaotic" and that he will talk to them later...ironic
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