Comments on: Beijing and New Media: Is the Eye of Sauron Turning to Twitter? http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/ Daily commentary about China by TIME correspondents. Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:17:37 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: chinabriefing http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2798 chinabriefing Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:08:29 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2798 Now 2morrow, you have short memory. George W. Bush sent you to wiretap and spy on your own citizens remember? Obviously, Bush thinks Americans need to be controlled too. Don't they teach logic reasoning and the strawman theory in CIA seminars? "Some" is a good word to add to your CIA vocab. CIA lesson of the day: google "checks and balances", James Madison; "separation of powers", Montesquieu; western parliamentary democracy, Zhao Ziyang. It will assist you on your next CIA mission by helping you understand the difference between rule of man vs the rule of law. Chinese needs to be controlled by the former; Americans are controlled by the latter. Now 2morrow, you have short memory. George W. Bush sent you to wiretap and spy on your own citizens remember? Obviously, Bush thinks Americans need to be controlled too. Don't they teach logic reasoning and the strawman theory in CIA seminars? "Some" is a good word to add to your CIA vocab.

CIA lesson of the day: google "checks and balances", James Madison; "separation of powers", Montesquieu; western parliamentary democracy, Zhao Ziyang. It will assist you on your next CIA mission by helping you understand the difference between rule of man vs the rule of law. Chinese needs to be controlled by the former; Americans are controlled by the latter.

]]> By: 2morrow2 http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2786 2morrow2 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:59:30 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2786 While Jacky Chan's famous commentary on the need for control may lack of sophisication, the belief that no control is needed or there is no control in the so-called democratic nations is inevitably naive. The China bashing clan is so easy to get excited on every single incident due to their own lack of interest and opportunity in everyday life proves this desperate jobless group of refugees are so damn boring. While Jacky Chan's famous commentary on the need for control may lack of sophisication, the belief that no control is needed or there is no control in the so-called democratic nations is inevitably naive.
The China bashing clan is so easy to get excited on every single incident due to their own lack of interest and opportunity in everyday life proves this desperate jobless group of refugees are so damn boring.

]]> By: chinabriefing http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2783 chinabriefing Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:01:30 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2783 It must be foreign infiltration in the Chinese internet network. There is no better explanation for this failure of policy execution and the organization of resistance of netizens. Sing666 and 2morrow will have to answer for this - how did the CIA fail to get any intel on this? They still don't behave exactly like fenqing should. Their disguise may be blown. As for Green Dam, the CCP obviously thinks Chinese need to be controlled. Or else it will lead to chaos. Chinese are intrinsically barbaric and homicidal; if they aren't imprisoned they will go around killing people for the fun of it. Just like how Chengguan kill citizens for the fun of it. Netizens vs CCP: game on! It must be foreign infiltration in the Chinese internet network. There is no better explanation for this failure of policy execution and the organization of resistance of netizens. Sing666 and 2morrow will have to answer for this - how did the CIA fail to get any intel on this? They still don't behave exactly like fenqing should. Their disguise may be blown.
As for Green Dam, the CCP obviously thinks Chinese need to be controlled. Or else it will lead to chaos. Chinese are intrinsically barbaric and homicidal; if they aren't imprisoned they will go around killing people for the fun of it. Just like how Chengguan kill citizens for the fun of it. Netizens vs CCP: game on!

]]> By: C.A. Yeung http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2764 C.A. Yeung Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:49:27 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2764 John Smith: I'm afraid the River Crab Hunters are not 100% happy with this delay tactic. The war is on. John Smith: I'm afraid the River Crab Hunters are not 100% happy with this delay tactic. The war is on.

]]> By: johnsmith9876 http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2762 johnsmith9876 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:45 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2762 What is this ? http://tinyurl.com/kqslb4 "近来，一些企业提出工作量大、时间仓促、准备不足。根据实际情况，可以推迟预装。" What ? A delay on such an important necessity for all Chinese netizens ? The Chinese government abandoning their responsibility of protecting all the Chinese internet users from the evil information ? OK, it is just a delay. But exposing Chinese to more days of dangerous information is an affront to the Chinese people and hurting their easily bruise feeling. The Chinese netizens better back down from their request and not force the Chinese government to use even more extreme measures to enforce information control to protect you. Netizens must give up now before the PLA's are called in to use phyiscal forces in additional to the cybar forces to help you realize the real intention of the Chinese government. What is this ? http://tinyurl.com/kqslb4
"近来，一些企业提出工作量大、时间仓促、准备不足。根据实际情况，可以推迟预装。" What ? A delay on such an important necessity for all Chinese netizens ? The Chinese government abandoning their responsibility of protecting all the Chinese internet users from the evil information ? OK, it is just a delay. But exposing Chinese to more days of dangerous information is an affront to the Chinese people and hurting their easily bruise feeling.

The Chinese netizens better back down from their request and not force the Chinese government to use even more extreme measures to enforce information control to protect you. Netizens must give up now before the PLA's are called in to use phyiscal forces in additional to the cybar forces to help you realize the real intention of the Chinese government.

]]> By: C.A. Yeung http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2757 C.A. Yeung Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:50:23 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2757 1 July 2009 is going to be a big day: <a href="https://docs.google.com/View?id=df563ttp_0c4tt2fdp" rel="nofollow">4Chans against River Crabs</a>. Not to be missed. Here is a <a href="http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddp7hnsf_3ktp563gh" rel="nofollow">LINK</a> for those linguistically challenged. 1 July 2009 is going to be a big day: 4Chans against River Crabs. Not to be missed.

Here is a LINK for those linguistically challenged.

]]> By: johnsmith9876 http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2756 johnsmith9876 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:17:40 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2756 We all know that the internet is evil, especially for people who need to be under control. Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Youtube, Hotmail, Google.cn etc. all make the internet even easier to use, and carry information in more ways to infiltrate and corrupt people who are easily corrupted, and hence need to be under control. Governments of these countries must stop the evil corrupting power of internet, or just any communication methods using electronic means. Cell phone is the other bad influence on people with easily manipulated minds which were protected from any western influence before, and now exposed to evil messages from the west. These feeble minds are just not ready to be exposed to ideas different from what their government deemed appropriate. The only solution to these people is to quit cold turkey, enforced by their government. We must realize that the most important thing for China and Iran is to put food one their table, especially river crab. Everyone must have river craba in every meal, and as snacks. And having a green dam in every home will ensure unlimited supply of river crabs, which require water behind the dam to multiply. We all know that the internet is evil, especially for people who need to be under control. Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Youtube, Hotmail, Google.cn etc. all make the internet even easier to use, and carry information in more ways to infiltrate and corrupt people who are easily corrupted, and hence need to be under control. Governments of these countries must stop the evil corrupting power of internet, or just any communication methods using electronic means. Cell phone is the other bad influence on people with easily manipulated minds which were protected from any western influence before, and now exposed to evil messages from the west. These feeble minds are just not ready to be exposed to ideas different from what their government deemed appropriate.

The only solution to these people is to quit cold turkey, enforced by their government.

We must realize that the most important thing for China and Iran is to put food one their table, especially river crab. Everyone must have river craba in every meal, and as snacks. And having a green dam in every home will ensure unlimited supply of river crabs, which require water behind the dam to multiply.

]]> By: C.A. Yeung http://china.blogs.time.com/2009/06/29/beijing-and-new-media-is-the-eye-of-sauron-turning-to-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-2755 C.A. Yeung Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:56:29 +0000 http://china.blogs.time.com/?p=2083#comment-2755 Simon: 1. My understanding is that Twitter, Flictr, YouTube and Hotmail have all been on and off in many places in China since the start of June. But then I'm not in China. So if it's not the case I stand to be corrected. 2. DEBKAfile published a <a href="http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1396" rel="nofollow">very good report</a> a couple of days ago to warn organisers of political movements against relying too much on computer technology. In the case of Iran, this reliance has actually backfired badly at the most critical time, leaving organisers and opposition leaders totally exposed to government crackdowns. 3. If the content of Twitter and SMS messages are still left largely uncensored in the PRC, you may want to ask why. The technology is definitely there. In any case, happy twittering. Simon:
1. My understanding is that Twitter, Flictr, YouTube and Hotmail have all been on and off in many places in China since the start of June. But then I'm not in China. So if it's not the case I stand to be corrected.
2. DEBKAfile published a very good report a couple of days ago to warn organisers of political movements against relying too much on computer technology. In the case of Iran, this reliance has actually backfired badly at the most critical time, leaving organisers and opposition leaders totally exposed to government crackdowns.
3. If the content of Twitter and SMS messages are still left largely uncensored in the PRC, you may want to ask why. The technology is definitely there. In any case, happy twittering.

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